Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard

[Steve Wise <swise@aoot.com>]

Ron, if we cancel now, do you think we'll piss off the SAMRA folks?



On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:29 -0600, BOB STETTNER wrote:
> Ron,
> 
> I had the same lack of response problem, even from board members, at HOTGG.
> It's the primary reason I backed off from continuing as President.  Many
> want to participate in events if it fits their schedule at the time but are
> unwilling to commit to making things happen in advance.  
> 
> In bigger clubs this may not be as much of a problem cause there are enough
> doers to get things done.  In small clubs it seems to come down to one, two
> or three and that's way to much of a burden.  Unless members do there part
> and step up to the plate, the club can just become an after thought or
> worst yet, die.
> 
> Maybe I'm out of place spouting off since I'm virtually an inactive TTAT
> member.  If so there is always the delete key.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Ron Fiebelkorn <rwf49@hotmail.com>
> > To: <ttat-members@aoot.com>
> > Date: 1/16/2006 12:48:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> >
> > When I sent out the first e-mail on the SAMRA show I didn't feel like it
> was 
> > worth attending but several members thought otherwise and the board
> decided 
> > we should attend.  When very few people signed the event log  I sent out
> the 
> > e-mail 7-10 days ago asking for input from the board and those members
> that 
> > were planning on going to the show to see if we should cancel.   No one 
> > responded until now.  Maybe there's just 3 of us that get these e-mails.
> >
> > >From: Russell G Knoblach Jr <rknoblach@Austin.RR.Com>
> > >Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > >To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > >Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> > >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:50:58 -0600
> > >
> > >I have to agree with Ira.  We need more participate on setup and its 
> not 
> > >there.  Cancel.
> > >
> > >On Jan 15, 2006, at 10:43 PM, Ira Schneider wrote:
> > >
> > >>Ron,
> > >>
> > >>In my opinion, there is not enough committed participation to 
> participate 
> > >>in the SAMRA show.
> > >>
> > >>There are only three members who have indicated that they will  
> > >>participate in setup on Friday evening.
> > >>Jim Reesman says he can participate on Saturday morning, not Friday  
> > >>evening.  It is very hard
> > >>to set up with only three people, especially since two of the three 
> are 
> > >>relatively new members
> > >>who haven't been to many set ups.
> > >>
> > >>Someone, normally the setup Fat Controller, has to design the  layout
> and 
> > >>decide what
> > >>modules are required.  You shouldn't just say "I would suggest  taking 
> > >>only enough for a
> > >>basic layout."  SAMRA has allocated a 40' x 40' area for the club  and 
> > >>they are expecting
> > >>us to build an L-shaped layout like last year to fill that area.   How 
> > >>annoyed are they going
> > >>to be if we show up and just build a small rectangular layout?  We 
> also 
> > >>have nobody going
> > >>to the show who is bringing scenery modules.  The layout would  consist
> of 
> > >>only the mainline
> > >>modules (and skyboards).
> > >>
> > >>You need to ask yourself (or perhaps your contact at SAMRA) whether 
> they 
> > >>will be
> > >>more annoyed with us setting up a small layout or cancelling out  two 
> > >>weeks before the show.
> > >>
> > >>I would suggest you consider cancelling the show.  We don't have 
> enough 
> > >>people for setup,
> > >>they are paying us $150, which means the club will only gain $75  after 
> > >>paying the
> > >>towing fees, and it is a lot of work for us for minimum benefit.   (We 
> > >>would have to tear down
> > >>the layout, tow it to San Antonio, set it up, tear it down, tow it 
> back 
> > >>to Cedar Park, and set up
> > >>again.
> > >>
> > >>We are reaping tangible benefits from our runs at The RailYard - we 
> are 
> > >>gaining new members.
> > >>There is little benefit, and a lot of work, to participate in this 
> show, 
> > >>especially with minimum
> > >>participation.
> > >>
> > >>That's my two cents on this issue.
> > >>
> > >>Thanks for listening to my ranting.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Ira
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>------
> > >>TTAT members reflector.
> > >>
> > >
> > >------
> > >TTAT members reflector.
> >
> >
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