Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard

["Ron Fiebelkorn" <rwf49@hotmail.com>]

Steve,

Sorry about the slow response but I've been redoing the office and the 
computer has been down a couple of days.

I'm sure SAMRA would be pissed off but after reading Ed's e-mail about 
towing the trailer to SAMRA and Rick's comments about trying to make the 
setup Friday night, I guess we're on.  I'll also try to make it Friday as 
long as the arrival time of the trailer isn't too late.

I talked with SAMRA tonight and we have our choice of the L shape layout or 
using an area that's 26' x 40'.  I guessing that would be roughly a 3 module 
by 6 module layout.  What size layout do we have at the Rail Yard??  Someone 
let me know so I can get back with them.

Thanks--Ron


>From: Steve Wise <swise@aoot.com>
>Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
>To: ttat-members@aoot.com
>Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:51:57 -0600
>
>
>Ron, if we cancel now, do you think we'll piss off the SAMRA folks?
>
>
>
>On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:29 -0600, BOB STETTNER wrote:
> > Ron,
> >
> > I had the same lack of response problem, even from board members, at 
>HOTGG.
> > It's the primary reason I backed off from continuing as President.  Many
> > want to participate in events if it fits their schedule at the time but 
>are
> > unwilling to commit to making things happen in advance.
> >
> > In bigger clubs this may not be as much of a problem cause there are 
>enough
> > doers to get things done.  In small clubs it seems to come down to one, 
>two
> > or three and that's way to much of a burden.  Unless members do there 
>part
> > and step up to the plate, the club can just become an after thought or
> > worst yet, die.
> >
> > Maybe I'm out of place spouting off since I'm virtually an inactive TTAT
> > member.  If so there is always the delete key.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Ron Fiebelkorn <rwf49@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <ttat-members@aoot.com>
> > > Date: 1/16/2006 12:48:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> > >
> > > When I sent out the first e-mail on the SAMRA show I didn't feel like 
>it
> > was
> > > worth attending but several members thought otherwise and the board
> > decided
> > > we should attend.  When very few people signed the event log  I sent 
>out
> > the
> > > e-mail 7-10 days ago asking for input from the board and those members
> > that
> > > were planning on going to the show to see if we should cancel.   No 
>one
> > > responded until now.  Maybe there's just 3 of us that get these 
>e-mails.
> > >
> > > >From: Russell G Knoblach Jr <rknoblach@Austin.RR.Com>
> > > >Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > >To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > >Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> > > >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:50:58 -0600
> > > >
> > > >I have to agree with Ira.  We need more participate on setup and its
> > not
> > > >there.  Cancel.
> > > >
> > > >On Jan 15, 2006, at 10:43 PM, Ira Schneider wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>Ron,
> > > >>
> > > >>In my opinion, there is not enough committed participation to
> > participate
> > > >>in the SAMRA show.
> > > >>
> > > >>There are only three members who have indicated that they will
> > > >>participate in setup on Friday evening.
> > > >>Jim Reesman says he can participate on Saturday morning, not Friday
> > > >>evening.  It is very hard
> > > >>to set up with only three people, especially since two of the three
> > are
> > > >>relatively new members
> > > >>who haven't been to many set ups.
> > > >>
> > > >>Someone, normally the setup Fat Controller, has to design the  
>layout
> > and
> > > >>decide what
> > > >>modules are required.  You shouldn't just say "I would suggest  
>taking
> > > >>only enough for a
> > > >>basic layout."  SAMRA has allocated a 40' x 40' area for the club  
>and
> > > >>they are expecting
> > > >>us to build an L-shaped layout like last year to fill that area.   
>How
> > > >>annoyed are they going
> > > >>to be if we show up and just build a small rectangular layout?  We
> > also
> > > >>have nobody going
> > > >>to the show who is bringing scenery modules.  The layout would  
>consist
> > of
> > > >>only the mainline
> > > >>modules (and skyboards).
> > > >>
> > > >>You need to ask yourself (or perhaps your contact at SAMRA) whether
> > they
> > > >>will be
> > > >>more annoyed with us setting up a small layout or cancelling out  
>two
> > > >>weeks before the show.
> > > >>
> > > >>I would suggest you consider cancelling the show.  We don't have
> > enough
> > > >>people for setup,
> > > >>they are paying us $150, which means the club will only gain $75  
>after
> > > >>paying the
> > > >>towing fees, and it is a lot of work for us for minimum benefit.   
>(We
> > > >>would have to tear down
> > > >>the layout, tow it to San Antonio, set it up, tear it down, tow it
> > back
> > > >>to Cedar Park, and set up
> > > >>again.
> > > >>
> > > >>We are reaping tangible benefits from our runs at The RailYard - we
> > are
> > > >>gaining new members.
> > > >>There is little benefit, and a lot of work, to participate in this
> > show,
> > > >>especially with minimum
> > > >>participation.
> > > >>
> > > >>That's my two cents on this issue.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks for listening to my ranting.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Ira
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>------
> > > >>TTAT members reflector.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >------
> > > >TTAT members reflector.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------
> > > TTAT members reflector.
> >
> >
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> > TTAT members reflector.
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