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Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
Due to trailer weight issues, I recommend _not_ doing an L. That way
you only need 4 corners. And don't take the sidings (I think we've
already agreed on this).
So I'd do a 3 x 5 or 6, or whatever you all can get setup based on setup
attendence/time.
Sorry I cannot attend.
Steve.
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 01:13 +0000, Ron Fiebelkorn wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Sorry about the slow response but I've been redoing the office and the
> computer has been down a couple of days.
>
> I'm sure SAMRA would be pissed off but after reading Ed's e-mail about
> towing the trailer to SAMRA and Rick's comments about trying to make the
> setup Friday night, I guess we're on. I'll also try to make it Friday as
> long as the arrival time of the trailer isn't too late.
>
> I talked with SAMRA tonight and we have our choice of the L shape layout or
> using an area that's 26' x 40'. I guessing that would be roughly a 3 module
> by 6 module layout. What size layout do we have at the Rail Yard?? Someone
> let me know so I can get back with them.
>
> Thanks--Ron
>
>
> >From: Steve Wise <swise@aoot.com>
> >Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> >To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> >Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:51:57 -0600
> >
> >
> >Ron, if we cancel now, do you think we'll piss off the SAMRA folks?
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:29 -0600, BOB STETTNER wrote:
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > I had the same lack of response problem, even from board members, at
> >HOTGG.
> > > It's the primary reason I backed off from continuing as President. Many
> > > want to participate in events if it fits their schedule at the time but
> >are
> > > unwilling to commit to making things happen in advance.
> > >
> > > In bigger clubs this may not be as much of a problem cause there are
> >enough
> > > doers to get things done. In small clubs it seems to come down to one,
> >two
> > > or three and that's way to much of a burden. Unless members do there
> >part
> > > and step up to the plate, the club can just become an after thought or
> > > worst yet, die.
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm out of place spouting off since I'm virtually an inactive TTAT
> > > member. If so there is always the delete key.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Ron Fiebelkorn <rwf49@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <ttat-members@aoot.com>
> > > > Date: 1/16/2006 12:48:43 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> > > >
> > > > When I sent out the first e-mail on the SAMRA show I didn't feel like
> >it
> > > was
> > > > worth attending but several members thought otherwise and the board
> > > decided
> > > > we should attend. When very few people signed the event log I sent
> >out
> > > the
> > > > e-mail 7-10 days ago asking for input from the board and those members
> > > that
> > > > were planning on going to the show to see if we should cancel. No
> >one
> > > > responded until now. Maybe there's just 3 of us that get these
> >e-mails.
> > > >
> > > > >From: Russell G Knoblach Jr <rknoblach@Austin.RR.Com>
> > > > >Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > > >To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> > > > >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:50:58 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >I have to agree with Ira. We need more participate on setup and its
> > > not
> > > > >there. Cancel.
> > > > >
> > > > >On Jan 15, 2006, at 10:43 PM, Ira Schneider wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>Ron,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>In my opinion, there is not enough committed participation to
> > > participate
> > > > >>in the SAMRA show.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>There are only three members who have indicated that they will
> > > > >>participate in setup on Friday evening.
> > > > >>Jim Reesman says he can participate on Saturday morning, not Friday
> > > > >>evening. It is very hard
> > > > >>to set up with only three people, especially since two of the three
> > > are
> > > > >>relatively new members
> > > > >>who haven't been to many set ups.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Someone, normally the setup Fat Controller, has to design the
> >layout
> > > and
> > > > >>decide what
> > > > >>modules are required. You shouldn't just say "I would suggest
> >taking
> > > > >>only enough for a
> > > > >>basic layout." SAMRA has allocated a 40' x 40' area for the club
> >and
> > > > >>they are expecting
> > > > >>us to build an L-shaped layout like last year to fill that area.
> >How
> > > > >>annoyed are they going
> > > > >>to be if we show up and just build a small rectangular layout? We
> > > also
> > > > >>have nobody going
> > > > >>to the show who is bringing scenery modules. The layout would
> >consist
> > > of
> > > > >>only the mainline
> > > > >>modules (and skyboards).
> > > > >>
> > > > >>You need to ask yourself (or perhaps your contact at SAMRA) whether
> > > they
> > > > >>will be
> > > > >>more annoyed with us setting up a small layout or cancelling out
> >two
> > > > >>weeks before the show.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I would suggest you consider cancelling the show. We don't have
> > > enough
> > > > >>people for setup,
> > > > >>they are paying us $150, which means the club will only gain $75
> >after
> > > > >>paying the
> > > > >>towing fees, and it is a lot of work for us for minimum benefit.
> >(We
> > > > >>would have to tear down
> > > > >>the layout, tow it to San Antonio, set it up, tear it down, tow it
> > > back
> > > > >>to Cedar Park, and set up
> > > > >>again.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We are reaping tangible benefits from our runs at The RailYard - we
> > > are
> > > > >>gaining new members.
> > > > >>There is little benefit, and a lot of work, to participate in this
> > > show,
> > > > >>especially with minimum
> > > > >>participation.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>That's my two cents on this issue.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Thanks for listening to my ranting.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Ira
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>------
> > > > >>TTAT members reflector.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >------
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