RE: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard

["Ron Fiebelkorn" <rwf49@hotmail.com>]

I talked with SAMRA today and told them we would take the 26 x 40 area.  If 
Allan is correct about the modules at the railyards, we should have plenty 
for the show.

Don't forget about the run at the RailYards this Saturday.  Afterwards we're 
scheduled to take down the layout and load the trailer for the following 
week-end.


>From: "Allan Adelman" <aadelman@Austin.RR.Com>
>Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
>To: <ttat-members@aoot.com>
>Subject: RE: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
>Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:58:58 -0600
>
>Ron,
>
>I believe the layout is 5 module by 6 module.  I will be able to be
>there all day on Saturday for SAMRA.
>
>Allan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com]
>On Behalf Of Ron Fiebelkorn
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:14 PM
>To: ttat-members@aoot.com
>Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
>
>Steve,
>
>Sorry about the slow response but I've been redoing the office and the
>computer has been down a couple of days.
>
>I'm sure SAMRA would be pissed off but after reading Ed's e-mail about
>towing the trailer to SAMRA and Rick's comments about trying to make the
>
>setup Friday night, I guess we're on.  I'll also try to make it Friday
>as
>long as the arrival time of the trailer isn't too late.
>
>I talked with SAMRA tonight and we have our choice of the L shape layout
>or
>using an area that's 26' x 40'.  I guessing that would be roughly a 3
>module
>by 6 module layout.  What size layout do we have at the Rail Yard??
>Someone
>let me know so I can get back with them.
>
>Thanks--Ron
>
>
> >From: Steve Wise <swise@aoot.com>
> >Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> >To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> >Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:51:57 -0600
> >
> >
> >Ron, if we cancel now, do you think we'll piss off the SAMRA folks?
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:29 -0600, BOB STETTNER wrote:
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > I had the same lack of response problem, even from board members, at
>
> >HOTGG.
> > > It's the primary reason I backed off from continuing as President.
>Many
> > > want to participate in events if it fits their schedule at the time
>but
> >are
> > > unwilling to commit to making things happen in advance.
> > >
> > > In bigger clubs this may not be as much of a problem cause there are
>
> >enough
> > > doers to get things done.  In small clubs it seems to come down to
>one,
> >two
> > > or three and that's way to much of a burden.  Unless members do
>there
> >part
> > > and step up to the plate, the club can just become an after thought
>or
> > > worst yet, die.
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm out of place spouting off since I'm virtually an inactive
>TTAT
> > > member.  If so there is always the delete key.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Ron Fiebelkorn <rwf49@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <ttat-members@aoot.com>
> > > > Date: 1/16/2006 12:48:43 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> > > >
> > > > When I sent out the first e-mail on the SAMRA show I didn't feel
>like
> >it
> > > was
> > > > worth attending but several members thought otherwise and the
>board
> > > decided
> > > > we should attend.  When very few people signed the event log  I
>sent
> >out
> > > the
> > > > e-mail 7-10 days ago asking for input from the board and those
>members
> > > that
> > > > were planning on going to the show to see if we should cancel.
>No
> >one
> > > > responded until now.  Maybe there's just 3 of us that get these
> >e-mails.
> > > >
> > > > >From: Russell G Knoblach Jr <rknoblach@Austin.RR.Com>
> > > > >Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > > >To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: Tearing down the layout at The RailYard
> > > > >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:50:58 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >I have to agree with Ira.  We need more participate on setup and
>its
> > > not
> > > > >there.  Cancel.
> > > > >
> > > > >On Jan 15, 2006, at 10:43 PM, Ira Schneider wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>Ron,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>In my opinion, there is not enough committed participation to
> > > participate
> > > > >>in the SAMRA show.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>There are only three members who have indicated that they will
> > > > >>participate in setup on Friday evening.
> > > > >>Jim Reesman says he can participate on Saturday morning, not
>Friday
> > > > >>evening.  It is very hard
> > > > >>to set up with only three people, especially since two of the
>three
> > > are
> > > > >>relatively new members
> > > > >>who haven't been to many set ups.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Someone, normally the setup Fat Controller, has to design the
> >layout
> > > and
> > > > >>decide what
> > > > >>modules are required.  You shouldn't just say "I would suggest
> >taking
> > > > >>only enough for a
> > > > >>basic layout."  SAMRA has allocated a 40' x 40' area for the
>club
> >and
> > > > >>they are expecting
> > > > >>us to build an L-shaped layout like last year to fill that area.
>
> >How
> > > > >>annoyed are they going
> > > > >>to be if we show up and just build a small rectangular layout?
>We
> > > also
> > > > >>have nobody going
> > > > >>to the show who is bringing scenery modules.  The layout would
> >consist
> > > of
> > > > >>only the mainline
> > > > >>modules (and skyboards).
> > > > >>
> > > > >>You need to ask yourself (or perhaps your contact at SAMRA)
>whether
> > > they
> > > > >>will be
> > > > >>more annoyed with us setting up a small layout or cancelling out
>
> >two
> > > > >>weeks before the show.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I would suggest you consider cancelling the show.  We don't have
> > > enough
> > > > >>people for setup,
> > > > >>they are paying us $150, which means the club will only gain $75
>
> >after
> > > > >>paying the
> > > > >>towing fees, and it is a lot of work for us for minimum benefit.
>
> >(We
> > > > >>would have to tear down
> > > > >>the layout, tow it to San Antonio, set it up, tear it down, tow
>it
> > > back
> > > > >>to Cedar Park, and set up
> > > > >>again.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We are reaping tangible benefits from our runs at The RailYard -
>we
> > > are
> > > > >>gaining new members.
> > > > >>There is little benefit, and a lot of work, to participate in
>this
> > > show,
> > > > >>especially with minimum
> > > > >>participation.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>That's my two cents on this issue.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Thanks for listening to my ranting.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Ira
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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