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Re: TTAT Trailer
Folding legs like we saw before were significantly heavier than what we
have. If we went to card table legs or possibly folding table legs, 2
together, that might be lighter. Alternatively we could put a bolt
throught the existing legs and add a card table type brace. No real
change in weight. if we went to a whole different leg system, would we
change the height?
What scares me about a permanent layout is the constant cash flow
required.
The problem with removing modules from the trail is where do they go?
and when?
Scott
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:05:15 +0000 "Ron Fiebelkorn" <rwf49@hotmail.com>
writes:
> I agree with Mike and Adrian that the idea of another permanent
> layout
> sounds good. I would rather put time and money into this effort
> instead of
> a new trailer. Depending on the size and cost of a facility, we may
> be able
> to get other clubs interested in sharing a site with us to defray
> our costs
> and responsibilities.
>
> I also like Bob's idea of folding legs on the modules. We spend a
> lot of
> time at each show putting the legs on each module. I don't see
> where this
> would add anyweight to the trailer since we would be replacing one
> type of
> leg with another. Some members have built these in the past and
> they seem
> to work fairly well.
>
> Ron
>
>
> >From: Pauwels Mike-rycl90 <Mike.Pauwels@motorola.com>
> >Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> >To: "'ttat-members@aoot.com'" <ttat-members@aoot.com>
> >Subject: RE: TTAT Trailer
> >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:53:57 -0700
> >
> >Y'all,
> >
> >One way to answer the question whether it's the weight that is
> limiting the
> >trailer would be to unload some of the modules the next time we
> plan to set
> >up a limited layout. For example, we could have removed two
> corners and a
> >few other modules for New Braunfels. If the trailer still has
> problems
> >with the reduced load, we need to look elsewhere for the solution.
> >
> >I agree that a permanent clubhouse would be ideal. I frankly think
> the
> >annual dues could be raised a bit without hurting too many of us.
> (We
> >could offer discounts for retired, kids, and hardships.) I think
> that we
> >might be able to negotiate a low rent in exchange for allowing the
> public
> >to visit on weekends. It could be a valuable attraction for a
> minimall.
> >
> >If we had a more permanent layout, I think we would all find it
> interesting
> >to work on scenery and special modules.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com
> [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com] On
> >Behalf Of Edward Weltens
> >Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:25 AM
> >To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> >Subject: Re: TTAT Trailer
> >
> >
> >I agree that we need to define our limits.
> >Once we get all the modules labled (I did about half at the New
> Braunfels
> >show) we need to take that inventory and make sure we are only
> hauling
> >around what we need. If modules are obsolete then we need to scrap
> them or
> >update them.
> >
> >How many modules to we need?
> >How many of those should be transition modules?
> >How many legs and clamps do we need?
> >How many skyboards do we need?
> >Do we really need 6 corners or would we be better off with only 4
> good
> >corners?
> >
> >I bet there is at least 100 pounds of excess weight in there
> probably
> >closer to 200.
> >
> >I would like the club to consider building some replacement modules
> for
> >some of the ones in bad shape. We might recycle some of the
> materials
> >since lumber is so expensive (especially plywood).
> >
> >
> >Steve Wise <swise@aoot.com> wrote:
> >
> >I think we will increase the weight slightly with our new 6' siding
>
> >transition
> >modules.
> >
> >But I agree that we should "freeze" the contents of the trailer...
> >
> >
> >
> > > The trailer body does flex from side to side when it hits bumps
> or pot
> >holes
> > > but it isn't very much flex.
> > > The tires were A-Framing out when they were low on air. After
> adding air
> > > they seemed to straighten up.
> > > The wheel on the driver side front of the trailer looked like it
> was
> > > bent-barely perceivable wobble. Lugs were tight.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think we have just reached the maximum weight for that
> trailer. Moving
> > > the axles further toward the rear of the trailer would help it
> track
> >better,
> > > but at the expense of transferring more weight to the tongue. I
> don't
> >think
> > > we should put the money into that trailer, the money s! pent
> would make
> >a nice
> > > down payment on a new trailer. Just perform maintenance on the
> current
> > > trailer.
> > >
> > > Something else to think about is that we want to put more stuff
> and
> >weight
> > > into the trailer. Even if we bought a new trailer that was
> set-up to
> >handle
> > > more stuff and weight we will still have the same vehicles to
> tow it
> >with.
> > > A heavier trailer may not be the direction to go in.
> > >
> > > Perhaps we should proclaim what we have now as the maximum for a
>
> >portable
> > > layout and allow no more stuff in the trailer. Spend our time
> and energy
> > > reworking, repairing, scenicing, and generally improving the
> modules
> > > currently in the trailer. If someone really wants to build a new
> module
> > > they could but would need to transport it in their vehicle or
> exchange
> >it
> > > for a module in the trailer.
> > >
> > > The best situation, one to work toward, would be to have a
> permanent
> >setup
> > > some plac! e and only load the trailer with the modules we will
> be using
> >at a
> > > particular event.
> > >
> > > Just some thoughts off the cuff.......
> > >
> > >
> > > Adrian...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com
> [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Scott A Smiley
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:02 PM
> > > To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > Subject: Re: TTAT Trailer
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting. I used to pull it at 65 to 70 without the swaying.
> Do not
> > > know if it can be aligned . Any body know on this?
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 03:23:57 -0700 Pauwels Mike-rycl90
> > > writes:
> > > > Scott,
> > > >
> > > > Has it been aligned? My father once tweaked up his boat
> trailer and
> > > > made a lot of difference.
> > > >
> > > > Also, you might want to consider the wind load. Effort! to
> pull that
> > > > box through the air increases as a third or fourth power of
> the
> > > > speed. If the trailer is bending when you pass it's speed
> limit,
> > > > there might not be anything else you can do.
> > > >
> > > > Just two-cents worth from an amateur.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com
> > > > [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com] On Behalf Of Scott A
> Smiley
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:40 PM
> > > > To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > > Subject: Re: TTAT Trailer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Any other ideas for the trailer? we moved some corners, got
> new
> > > > tires... We may be at the load limit. Is the swaying because
> the
> > > > tongue is too heavy?
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> >
> >
> >------
> >TTAT members reflector.
> >
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