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RE: TTAT Trailer
I agree with Mike and Adrian that the idea of another permanent layout
sounds good. I would rather put time and money into this effort instead of
a new trailer. Depending on the size and cost of a facility, we may be able
to get other clubs interested in sharing a site with us to defray our costs
and responsibilities.
I also like Bob's idea of folding legs on the modules. We spend a lot of
time at each show putting the legs on each module. I don't see where this
would add anyweight to the trailer since we would be replacing one type of
leg with another. Some members have built these in the past and they seem
to work fairly well.
Ron
>From: Pauwels Mike-rycl90 <Mike.Pauwels@motorola.com>
>Reply-To: ttat-members@aoot.com
>To: "'ttat-members@aoot.com'" <ttat-members@aoot.com>
>Subject: RE: TTAT Trailer
>Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:53:57 -0700
>
>Y'all,
>
>One way to answer the question whether it's the weight that is limiting the
>trailer would be to unload some of the modules the next time we plan to set
>up a limited layout. For example, we could have removed two corners and a
>few other modules for New Braunfels. If the trailer still has problems
>with the reduced load, we need to look elsewhere for the solution.
>
>I agree that a permanent clubhouse would be ideal. I frankly think the
>annual dues could be raised a bit without hurting too many of us. (We
>could offer discounts for retired, kids, and hardships.) I think that we
>might be able to negotiate a low rent in exchange for allowing the public
>to visit on weekends. It could be a valuable attraction for a minimall.
>
>If we had a more permanent layout, I think we would all find it interesting
>to work on scenery and special modules.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com] On
>Behalf Of Edward Weltens
>Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:25 AM
>To: ttat-members@aoot.com
>Subject: Re: TTAT Trailer
>
>
>I agree that we need to define our limits.
>Once we get all the modules labled (I did about half at the New Braunfels
>show) we need to take that inventory and make sure we are only hauling
>around what we need. If modules are obsolete then we need to scrap them or
>update them.
>
>How many modules to we need?
>How many of those should be transition modules?
>How many legs and clamps do we need?
>How many skyboards do we need?
>Do we really need 6 corners or would we be better off with only 4 good
>corners?
>
>I bet there is at least 100 pounds of excess weight in there probably
>closer to 200.
>
>I would like the club to consider building some replacement modules for
>some of the ones in bad shape. We might recycle some of the materials
>since lumber is so expensive (especially plywood).
>
>
>Steve Wise <swise@aoot.com> wrote:
>
>I think we will increase the weight slightly with our new 6' siding
>transition
>modules.
>
>But I agree that we should "freeze" the contents of the trailer...
>
>
>
> > The trailer body does flex from side to side when it hits bumps or pot
>holes
> > but it isn't very much flex.
> > The tires were A-Framing out when they were low on air. After adding air
> > they seemed to straighten up.
> > The wheel on the driver side front of the trailer looked like it was
> > bent-barely perceivable wobble. Lugs were tight.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think we have just reached the maximum weight for that trailer. Moving
> > the axles further toward the rear of the trailer would help it track
>better,
> > but at the expense of transferring more weight to the tongue. I don't
>think
> > we should put the money into that trailer, the money s! pent would make
>a nice
> > down payment on a new trailer. Just perform maintenance on the current
> > trailer.
> >
> > Something else to think about is that we want to put more stuff and
>weight
> > into the trailer. Even if we bought a new trailer that was set-up to
>handle
> > more stuff and weight we will still have the same vehicles to tow it
>with.
> > A heavier trailer may not be the direction to go in.
> >
> > Perhaps we should proclaim what we have now as the maximum for a
>portable
> > layout and allow no more stuff in the trailer. Spend our time and energy
> > reworking, repairing, scenicing, and generally improving the modules
> > currently in the trailer. If someone really wants to build a new module
> > they could but would need to transport it in their vehicle or exchange
>it
> > for a module in the trailer.
> >
> > The best situation, one to work toward, would be to have a permanent
>setup
> > some plac! e and only load the trailer with the modules we will be using
>at a
> > particular event.
> >
> > Just some thoughts off the cuff.......
> >
> >
> > Adrian...
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com]On
> > Behalf Of Scott A Smiley
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:02 PM
> > To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > Subject: Re: TTAT Trailer
> >
> >
> > Interesting. I used to pull it at 65 to 70 without the swaying. Do not
> > know if it can be aligned . Any body know on this?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 03:23:57 -0700 Pauwels Mike-rycl90
> > writes:
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > Has it been aligned? My father once tweaked up his boat trailer and
> > > made a lot of difference.
> > >
> > > Also, you might want to consider the wind load. Effort! to pull that
> > > box through the air increases as a third or fourth power of the
> > > speed. If the trailer is bending when you pass it's speed limit,
> > > there might not be anything else you can do.
> > >
> > > Just two-cents worth from an amateur.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com
> > > [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com] On Behalf Of Scott A Smiley
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:40 PM
> > > To: ttat-members@aoot.com
> > > Subject: Re: TTAT Trailer
> > >
> > >
> > > Any other ideas for the trailer? we moved some corners, got new
> > > tires... We may be at the load limit. Is the swaying because the
> > > tongue is too heavy?
> > >
> > > Scott
>
>
>------
>TTAT members reflector.
>
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