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Re: Module Information Please



Not that I disagree with what everyone else is saying, but it is probably not required to change the wires out unless you want to do that.  The original spec was for 20 gauge and that is what is on most modules.  WE recently decided to have any new modules go to 18 gauge.  We probably loose more power in the plugs than the wire.  Since the wire is looped, the current can get through the 20 but 18 is better.  I am not sure about the 70" length.  48" plus a foot extra is only 60 ".  The 70" may be a hold over from when we plugged the wire together for transport.  Since we now use boxes for the plugs, the wires can be as Ira said, about 60", unless you fix them to one side and the module you are matching with has them on the other side, 2' apart.  The 60"  assumes they go down the middle.  if they go around the edges, more wire is needed to get back to the center. 
 
I have found some nice cheap plastic boxes at Michaels.
 
We do not want solid wire!
 
If you really have this all apart, a 1x2 brace across the center is a good addition since the 1/4" decking has sagged on several modules over the years.
 
I like the Velcro  pole idea.  Look forward to see how it works.
 
there was a interesting article in CTT just awhile back on ballasting.  They put tape over the ties and ballast on top of the tape.  Very little volume of ballast required since it was void under the tape.  This may not be appropriate for the club due to the abuse the modules take.
 
Scott
 
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:22:32 -0600 "Adrian Elliott" <aelliott@jump.net> writes:
Hello Mike,  there is no rush to get your module done.  If you don't have it by GATS that is Ok, unless you want it done by then.
 
It is usually easiest to solder the jumper wires to the track sections before they are attached to the module.  Sounds like you are having fun with the module.
 
Adrian.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com]On Behalf Of Pauwels Mike-rycl90
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:19 PM
To: 'ttat-members@aoot.com'
Subject: RE: Module Information Please

Ed,
 
Although I have almost got all the technical specs nailed, it would be nice to have an electronic copy of the module spec if you have it in that form.
 
I have quite a lot of wire so I'd better look around before I put in an order.  We have been having a lot of fun with this module.  We will probably take on another next year for Hugh's contribution, but I won't make the mistake of crowding that holidays so much again.
 
I have another idea to offer, which I had seen on some other club's layout.  I got  a dozen plastic open wire telephone polse.  I saw one club's layout where these were installed at the velcro edge of the modules.  Even if you don't string them with 'wire' they tend to form a bit of a fence for the public.
 
Hugh and I are coming to the Fun Run on Saturday.  Hope to see you then.
 
Regards,
 
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com]On Behalf Of Edward Weltens
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:05 PM
To: ttat-members@aoot.com
Subject: RE: Module Information Please

Mike, as long as it isn't aquarium gravel I think it will be ok.
 
I do have all the colors of wire available in 18-gauge stranded spools.  I think I paid between 7-10 cents per foot for the 100 foot spools.  I can get you whatever you need for $5 for the whole module.  There are 10 wires total and you need some short connector pieces.  I also have some of the jones plug connectors if you need replacements.  There may be more in the trailer.
 
I can print you a copy of the module specs if you like.
 
Ed

Pauwels Mike-rycl90 <Mike.Pauwels@motorola.com> wrote:
Ira,

I was experimenting with depleted uranium since it is denser than lead. ;o)

Seriously, I have an 8 ounce bag of ballast and I do not expect to use it all. I have selected a light brown indoor/outdoor carpeting material which will allow me to minimize the actual ballast used. I will weigh the left over and let you know how much I installed.

Regards,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: ttat-members-owner@aoot.com [mailto:ttat-members-owner@aoot.com]On
Behalf Of Ira Schneider
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:05 PM
To: ttat-members@aoot.com
Subject: Re: Module Information Please


Mike,

Here are some answers to your questions:

1. The TTAT Draft Module Specification specifies the wire is 18 AWG (see page 17 - Materials List).

2. We strongly suggest using stranded wire, since it is more flexib! le and will work better at the connectors.

3. The TTAT Draft Module Specification specifies that each piece of wire is to be 70" long. This
allows for approximately 6" at each end for the pigtail.

4. The wires are to be individual lengths of 18 AWG stranded wire, not bundled cables. We keep the
wires separate so they are easier to see, easier to connect to in the middle, and easy to spot
problems. When I constructed my module I encased the individual wires in spiral wrap for neatness,
which was totally unneccesary. Ed Weltens had spools of wire of all appropriate colors. If he still has
some of this wire, I am sure he will be happy to sell you the wire you need at cost.

When you experiment with ballast remember that ballast adds weight to the module.

Good luck.


Ira



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