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Re: New Corners
I will probably not be available on Sat. that week end. I could get back
Sun afternoon if needed.
Scott
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 20:52:30 -0500 "Steve Wise" <swise@aoot.com> writes:
> I agree. Option 2 sounds good to me.
>
> I suggest we try and schedule a work day (not a BCE day where we all
> want to
> run trains). The work day could include:
>
> - completing the 2 new corner modules (leg sockets & trailer
> connectors)
> - wiring new crossover harnesses
> - finishing plexiglass on the corners
> - there's a long list of other to-dos...
>
> Anyone up for Saturday June 29th or Sunday June 30th?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott A Smiley" <sc.smiley@juno.com>
> To: <ttat-members@aoot.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: New Corners
>
>
> > This
> > is a good summary. I agree that option 2 is a good choice.
> These plug
> > adapters would be useable if any module would be reversed in the
> layout
> > for what ever unknown reason. (Taking a module with switches on
> track 4
> > and putting it in so the switches are on track 1????)
> >
> > This could also be done at home with out the modules or trailer.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 15:22:26 -0500 "Ira Schneider"
> > <ira_schneider@Iname.com> writes:
> > > Yesterday we used the new corner modules for the first time and
> set
> > > up an L-shaped layout.
> > >
> > > Despite my skepticism as to the usefulness of this layout, even
> I am
> > > now convinced this is
> > > a good thing for the club. It was interesting to see a long
> freight
> > > train snake around the
> > > double-reverse-curve inside the L.
> > >
> > > The new corner modules (thanks Ed and the others who helped
> out)
> > > work, but have a couple
> > > of problems which need to be addressed before we use them in a
> > > show:
> > >
> > > 1. Most legs won't fit in the module marked C5. It looks like
> Ed
> > > used the new "appearance grade"
> > > 1x2s from Home Depot for the spacers in the leg pockets.
> This
> > > lumber is thinner than standard
> > > 1x2s and most legs, including ones made from the same
> lumber,
> > > won't fit. These leg pockets
> > > need to be redone with standard 1x2 spacers.
> > > 2. Both corner modules should have two (2) trailer connectors
> on
> > > the inside so we can use
> > > them interchangeably as power or auxiliary power (i.e. the
> > > diagonal module where the power
> > > harness is connected). Right now, only one module (I think
> it
> > > is the C6 module) has one trailer
> > > connector mounted in it, and the connector is not wired.
> > > 3. We need a special wiring harness for the inside corner.
> Either
> > > we need to add a special harness
> > > to one of the new corner modules (or both if we want
> symmetry)
> > > or we need to construct
> > > separate crossover harnesses for the inside corner. (See
> > > below).
> > >
> > > I had originally calculated that we would have about a 2" gap
> in
> > > both directions when constructing
> > > the L-shaped layout using the new corners inside the L. When we
> got
> > > to the last module joint,
> > > there was a gap, as predicted. We didn't measure the gap but
> it
> > > looked like a couple of inches.
> > > We were able to close the gap by moving the modules around, as
> we
> > > thought we could. So, even
> > > though the dimensions are not exact, there is enough play in
> the
> > > module joints to allow us to
> > > close the L-shaped figure. However, we do have to remember to
> use
> > > both new corner modules
> > > on the same side of the figure (i.e. one has to be the inside
> corner
> > > and the other has to be
> > > an adjacent corner).
> > >
> > > Now for the wiring. There are two ways of wiring the inside
> corner.
> > > (The colors in the following
> > > lists correspond to our standard connector wiring colors.)
> > >
> > > 1. Add new harnesses to both sides of the corner module. The
> 4-pin
> > > plug goes on the end
> > > of the module where the normal 4-pin socket is, etc. The
> new
> > > harnesses are wired as follows:
> > >
> > > 4-pin connector
> > > pin 1: brown (mainline 4 power)
> > > pin 2: orange (mainline 2 power)
> > > pin 3: black (common)
> > > pin 4: red: (mainline 3 power)
> > > 6-pin connector
> > > pin 1: white (mainline 1 power)
> > > pin 2: yellow (unused)
> > > pin 3: blue (accessory power 2)
> > > pin 4: gray (accessory power 1)
> > > pin 5: black (common)
> > > pin 6: green (turnout power)
> > >
> > > 2. Construct two (2) crossover harnesses which can be connected
> > > between the standard
> > > plugs on the inside corner and the adjacent modules. In
> the
> > > following description, one side
> > > of the harness contains the A plugs and sockets and the B
> side
> > > contains the same kinds of
> > > plugs (i.e. one harness has a 4-pin plug and a 6-pin socket
> on
> > > each end and the other
> > > harness has a 4-pin socket and a 6-pin plug on each end).
> These
> > > harnesses have to be wired
> > > as follows:
> > >
> > > 4-pin connector A:
> > > pin 1 (white): connected to 6-pin connector B pin 1
> > > pin 2 (red): connected to 4-pin connector B pin 4
> > > pin 3 (black): connected to 4-pin connector B pin 3
> > > pin 4 (orange): connected to 4-pin conector B pin 2
> > > 6-pin connector A:
> > > pin 1 (brown): connected to 4-pin connector B pin 1
> > > pin 2 (yellow): connected to 6-pin connector B pin 2
> > > pin 3 (blue): connected to 6-pin connector B pin 3
> > > pin 4 (gray): connected to 6-pin connector B pin 4
> > > pin 5 (black): connected to 6-pin connector B pin 5
> > > pin 6 (green): connected to 6-pin connector B pin 6
> > >
> > > There is a third method for handling the wiring. We can
> construct a
> > > passthrough harness with
> > > a 4-pin plug and a 6-pin socket on one end and a 4-pin socket
> and a
> > > 6-pin plug on the other end
> > > with all of the wires connected straight through (i.e. 4-pin
> plug
> > > pin 1 connected to 4-pin socket pin 1, etc.).
> > > This harness can be connected ACROSS the inside corner module,
> > > routing the power between
> > > the adjacent modules and bypassing the inside corner module.
> The
> > > problem with this scheme is
> > > that the tracks on the inside corner module would only get
> power
> > > through the bridge tracks.
> > >
> > > I would suggest that we build the harnesses described in method
> 2.
> > > This gives us the advantage
> > > of being able to use ANY corner for the inside corner, not just
> one
> > > corner that we add a special
> > > wiring harness to. It does have the disadvantage that we have
> to
> > > store the new harnesses some place
> > > and remember where they are when we are wiring the layout. I
> think
> > > we can keep these harnesses
> > > either in the main or auxiliary power box or in the egg crate
> with
> > > the test harness we use when we
> > > are connecting the modules together during setup.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any other thoughts on this subject?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ira
> > >
> > >
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